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Frugal Friends meeting 12th Nov Reading

Tuesday, November 13th, 2007

Well I managed to choose a night when Arsenal were playing away to Reading,traffic was heavy and my apologies to all that had to battle through the traffic.
Again we managed to have our best turn out to date,infact each meeting as been slightly busier than the previous one.
It was one of those days where everything that can go wrong did.Melanie phoned me to say that she was not feeling well but would still make it,just for an hour or so but sounded really full of cold and had to pull out a few hours later,then my trusty old car decided to splutter all over the place when my wife used it to drop off one of the kids earlier in the day.That had to go into the garage and I had to close my shop three hours early and plod down in my van,however I made it with time to spare and parked in the long stay car park by the rail station.
Jon Tegg[Coveritall],his wife Gwen and business associate Rob were already at the hotel having arrived early[Rob had driven down from Liverpool !!]
Debbie [Soulgrowth] arrived just before 7pm followed by Ray[RAY A] Tracey[Skippy] and her partner Dave.
The lounge area was a bit small to accomodate all of us but luckily[?] John had eaten a rather poor meal in the restuarant and was due a refund but his business head kicked in and he managed to negotiate a meeting room[quoted £190] in lieu of his poor dinner !!!So we were able to have a chat in comfort,style and privacy.
As with all these events conversation was easy and relaxed.We covered areas such as TIX,reasons for getting into debt,various postings on the forum,life after an IVA/Bankruptcy,levels of debt in the UK and insurance products for IVAs.
John and Rob are working on a accident/sickness and redundancy policy specific for the IVA industry and hope to present it to TIX[The Insolvency Exchange].
My thanks to all that attended,I really do appreciate the effort made and am always so impressed with the people that I meet on my travels,forum members and experts alike.All genuine people with a genuine interest in helping others.
I stayed over but was up at six as,having the only vehicle,I had to take my daughter to a hospital appointment but was in need of treatment myself after having to pay £16 to get out of the station car park !!!

Meeting at The Insolvency Exchange HQ

Friday, November 9th, 2007

Yesterday,thursday 8th,I met Martin Prigent who is head of Insolvency Relations at the TIX headquarters in Nottingham.I had been invited to attend alongside Melanie and her business partner Philip Gill.

The Insolvency Exchange [TIX] represent several creditors[HBOS,RBS group,M&S money,HSBC,and First Direct] and process and vote on nearly 80% of all IVA proposals[if memory serves me correct]
Melanie and Philip were looking to get answers to some technical issues regarding the proposals that they were submitting [TIX compliant proposals] and my focus was to get answers to some questions that I had put together from a “Joe public, debtors” point of view.
Martin was very open and I felt was keen to listen to both Melanie and myself,he came across as someone who wanted to explain the reasoning behind TIX and the recent changes that had been introduced to try and bring the IVA procedure into the twenty first century[automated payments from IPs to creditors,paperless office system and statistics gained from the IVAs that are processed]

My main question related to assurances that people who had a low monthly IVA proposal would not be excluded from an IVA due to the fee structure[the TIX compliant IVA states that IPs will be paid a proportion of the debtors monthly payment and a £250 monthly IVA would result in a total IP fee of less than 3k,compared to the industry average of 6k].Martin assured me that they still received proposals with payments of less than £200 per month and that,as there was no fee capping ,IPs would earn 15k on a £1200 per month IVA and this would make up for the low fee IVAs.

My next question related to HSBCs 40p hurdle rate that I felt was unacceptable as it prevented debtors from entering into an IVA if they had a debts with HSBC that represented more than 25% of the total debt and couldn’t realise a 40p dividend .Martin stated that this was a condition that HSBC had imposed and that they would,generally,not budge from.However he did think that there might be a relaxing of this policy in the not to distant future.

I asked if the clause relating to equity release in the fourth year not costing more than 60% of the debtors disposible income was standard and he said that it was,something that I welcomed.I also asked how he felt about the remortgage for equity release running past retirement date and he felt that this should not happen in the majority of cases and is something that they would look at.
I asked how they felt about an insurance to cover the debtor in an IVA against illness and redundancy and Martin felt that this was a “no go” purely because there was not a suitable policy in the market place,however he did say that if a suitable policy became available that they would look at it.
Finally I raised my main concern and that was regarding creditors asking for increased payments at the meeting stage.I said that on the forum I had noticed an increase in the number of modifications asking for increased payments from debtors.I explained to Martin that at the time of a creditors meeting debtors are highly emotional and would agree to almost anything resulting in hardship several months down the line.

More trust should be put with IPs to produce accurate disposible income figures and that these should not be changed for no good reason.I think that there was agreement on this and a possible way forward was an accreditation mark for IPs from TIX to show that they were trusted 100%.
I have to say that I felt proud that IVA.co.uk had been invited to meet such a major player in the IVA industry and feel that,as we continue to grow,the site and forum is becoming widely read and respected by both debtors AND creditors.

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